"ttyymmnn" (ttyymmnn)
07/24/2017 at 12:13 • Filed to: None
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"ttyymmnn" (ttyymmnn)
07/24/2017 at 12:13 • Filed to: None | 4
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Teen live-streams the car crash that killed her sister. The driver had been drinking, speeding, lost control and crashed. Her sister and another teen were in the back seat, unbelted, and were ejected. The driver’s initial concerns are that she is going to go to jail for a long time.
Needless to say, this video is graphic and may be disturbing . Which is exactly why I’m going to show it to my teenage son.
HammerheadFistpunch
> ttyymmnn
07/24/2017 at 12:21 |
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Whew...thats rough. I have zero compassion towards drunk drivers, may they get all the red hot pokes of justice they have coming to them and more.
X37.9XXS
> ttyymmnn
07/24/2017 at 12:24 |
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I don’t know that it will do any good to show this to your son
Back in ages past, there was a pretty graphic move called Signal 30 , which was supposed to scare teen-agers straight.
Trust me, did not work. Teen-agers are hard-wired to think that they are immortal
McMike
> ttyymmnn
07/24/2017 at 12:26 |
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I have not seen that version of the aftermath yet.
And to think I was disgusted with the driver’s behavior
before
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Die-Trying
> ttyymmnn
07/24/2017 at 12:26 |
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thats .........pretty rough there at the end........
Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell.
> ttyymmnn
07/24/2017 at 12:33 |
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She doesn’t really seem all that upset at the end... Fuck this is humanity at it’s worst.
Honeybunchesofgoats
> HammerheadFistpunch
07/24/2017 at 12:34 |
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I realized that I was old the day I came to the recognition that I have zero compassion for anyone who endangers the lives of others.
Ash78, voting early and often
> ttyymmnn
07/24/2017 at 12:36 |
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About 2 decades ago, the Australian PSA organization did a series of graphic ads aimed at teens. They kept coming up flat, with no discernible response in either real-life accident rates or focus groups responses.
So they hired an outside agency to do some studies. It turns out they had missed the mark entirely: The two main fears about DUIs among teens were losing their license and going to jail. In that order. Personal injury wasn’t even on their radar. Maybe that why we send these people to war.
K-Roll-PorscheTamer
> ttyymmnn
07/24/2017 at 12:36 |
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Need more context. Was the sister livestreaming and driving drunk, or was someone else driving drunk in another car and the sister was livestreaming when it happened?
XJDano
> ttyymmnn
07/24/2017 at 12:39 |
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About 10 years ago in the middle of the nights buddy & I drove up to a similar scene. I almost tripped over the dead body on the shoulder. It shook me up for a while.
Weird how she is apologetic then a IDGAF. Probably in shock and denial by trying to wake her up.
Takuro Spirit
> ttyymmnn
07/24/2017 at 12:40 |
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Seatbelts.
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ttyymmnn
> Takuro Spirit
07/24/2017 at 12:47 |
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Yup.
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ttyymmnn
> XJDano
07/24/2017 at 12:48 |
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She still can’t seem to break out of gangsta mode. She remains fixated on what will happen to her, rather than what she just did to her sister. I’m sure the remorse will follow. At least I hope so.
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ttyymmnn
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/24/2017 at 12:48 |
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The sister was driving, and has been charged with vehicular manslaughter and DUI. I don’t know who was actually doing the filming. I presume it was the driver.
Mercedes Streeter
> ttyymmnn
07/24/2017 at 12:50 |
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I...I don’t even know how to feel except extreme sadness. She will have her sister’s death hang over her head for eternity. A chain of stupid decisions lead to the loss of a life that will never come back and a ripple effect of other lives that will be torn apart by it. :/
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ttyymmnn
> Ash78, voting early and often
07/24/2017 at 12:50 |
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Maybe that why we send these people to war.
There are old fighter pilots, and there are bold fighter pilots. There are no old, bold fighter pilots.
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ttyymmnn
> Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell.
07/24/2017 at 12:51 |
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She can’t seem to get out of gangsta mode. Perhaps the remorse came later.
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ttyymmnn
> Mercedes Streeter
07/24/2017 at 12:55 |
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It is easy for us to mock her. It says a lot about you that compassion was your first response.
DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back
> ttyymmnn
07/24/2017 at 12:58 |
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Her sisters head is split open before her.
“This is the last thing I wanted to happen to us. But it just did.”
No. It did not just happen. You killed your sister.
The complete lack of responsibility taken astounds me. I cannot even begin to comprehend how screwed up the logic/emotion/maturity centers of your brain must be to do something like this, to go through something like this and then say “I don’t give a fuck”. No punishment will ever be enough. Not because she will never suffer enough for her actions, but because she won’t care.
What a sociopath.
cluelessk
> Ash78, voting early and often
07/24/2017 at 13:00 |
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The classes that the Manitoba, Canada government makes people take after a DUI only talk about the inconvenience and cost involved. They actually avoid talking about the physical danger people put themselves and others in.
victor
> Mercedes Streeter
07/24/2017 at 13:00 |
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Alcohol makes people make rash decisions that they come back to later regret. This case, for instance:
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Ash78, voting early and often
> ttyymmnn
07/24/2017 at 13:02 |
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In all fairness to the USAF and other aviators, their career lifespan is much better than grunts’.
For example, my grandfather, Army Infantry. Shows up for the Battle of Leyte Gulf in the Philippines, Purple Heart on Day 2 (rifle through the shoulder). Spends 3 months in the hospital, goes back to the Philippines to help keep the peace. 3 days later, guerilla ambush, shrapnel to the hamstring and butt. Off to New Zealand for R&R, atomic bomb dropped, the end. He said that was pretty typical in their unit.
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ttyymmnn
> DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back
07/24/2017 at 13:05 |
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I cannot even begin to comprehend how screwed up the logic/emotion/maturity centers of your brain must be to do something like this, to go through something like this and then say “I don’t give a fuck”.
It’s called “Being a teenager.”
Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer
> X37.9XXS
07/24/2017 at 13:07 |
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Fair warning: this is a not-terribly-well-written opinion with a TL;DR of “meh, worth a shot”. Feel free to skip it.
There’s a difference between a government production and youtube footage. I had (and have) no respect for the official stuff, because the people who put them together are a bunch of bumbling idiots prone to much exaggeration, and often making the agenda first and thinking it over later. Seeing it actually in the raw... is way different.
A feeble attempt to explain what I think I was thinking (for lack of a better way to put it):
The government feels obligated to make everything black and white when in reality it’s gray. As a result you look at it, go “that’s fucking stupid”, and ignore it completely. Not every speeding driver is a reckless driver (depending on where you are... I’m not going to judge. To obey the limits around here is usually idiotic, to disobey them in other places is the stupid choice). Not every drinking driver is a drunk driver (don’t take that as permission to drive, just saying). I’d even take it as far as not every drunk driver (legally speaking) is an automatic hazard. Sure they’re far MORE hazard, what with decreased reactions etc, but the limit is so low now that it’s perfectly possible for a reasonable human being to be slightly over and not even raise an eyebrow.
Anyway, I ramble... point is, the videos I saw in drivers ed didn’t mean shit to me. They were bureaucratic exaggerated BS, a bunch of actors with the occasional “Offender who now lives with permanent ailments spouting a scripted line”. Total BS. Just like any other crash, those with alcohol involved range from curb rash to total loss of life of everyone involved. You know what did make an impact? The legal consequences (Ontario is properly strict), exposure to alcohol in a controlled environment fairly early, and the fact that I really enjoy driving. Two of those equate to fear and the other to a conscious knowledge of how it affects me. So, fear works... but frankly, fear of the law is kind of a dumb thing to rely on. Had I seen real, actual footage of something graphic like this... For myself, I’m pretty sure it would have had the same effect.
I’d be in favour of ditching the standard videos for stuff like this. The standard videos don’t do shit, and there’s plenty of people who have no fear of the law. I know some personally. For them, they might as well have not been given any drivers ed at all. What they DO still have, though, is a sense of self-preservation. Given uncut footage rather than scripted BS could likely make an impact even on them.
Another thing... the natural teen thought is “do the thing they said not to”... yet another reason why the scripted stuff is useless. It’s not so much thinking themselves invincible as “let’s try it and prove them wrong”. My own opinion is the raw facts of what happened are more likely to sink in if there isn’t any actual instruction attached to it.
Ramble over. Enjoy your day
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Die-Trying
> Takuro Spirit
07/24/2017 at 13:08 |
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i STILL put them on everytime that i ride in a car somewhere. a couple of my younger friends look at me kinda weird about it. those belts make a whole lot of difference......
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ttyymmnn
> Mercedes Streeter
07/24/2017 at 13:09 |
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I realized that my comment to you may be taken in the wrong way. I meant it as an entirely good thing. I managed to find compassion for the man who totaled my VW while he was driving drunk. I was angry at first, but I explained to my sons that getting angry doesn’t change anything. I lost my beloved car, but that young man, and his family, has a world of problems to deal with. I admit, given my youthful history, that I could have been there too.
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DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back
> ttyymmnn
07/24/2017 at 13:20 |
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I know you’re not condoning these actions, but I don’t feel like that’s an excuse. I know teenagers can be pretty unfeeling about certain things, and its cool nowadays to “not give a fuck”. I obviously was a teenager not that long ago so I remember pretty clearly all the dumb stuff that we did and how lucky we are that nothing bad happened.
The actions at the beginning of the video are sadly typical teenager. Total selfishness, no forethought. Its the end of the video that bugs me. This is a whole other level of unfeeling and uncaring. That’s a gory dead body. A real one. Caused by her actions. How can she not have an emotional response that her own flesh and blood is gone and it is never ever coming back? I mean if she was even just crying at the end of that video...but she wasn’t. She told everyone she was “gonna hold it down”. I hope she was just so out of it, so high on whatever she was on, that she couldn’t physically process what was going on...
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Die-Trying
> ttyymmnn
07/24/2017 at 13:26 |
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its hard to decide WHAT to tell a kid, so that you actually reach them....... i mean, we all take our own chances, and do our own stunts, and if we get hurt, its our own fault.... but its not fair to everyone else around you, that is touched by a kids carelessness. its hard to explain to a kid that they are responsible to everyone ELSE.......
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ttyymmnn
> Die-Trying
07/24/2017 at 13:29 |
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I have said to my boys, on many occasions, that we all make mistakes. It’s how we handle them that is the measure of the person.
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Die-Trying
> ttyymmnn
07/24/2017 at 13:36 |
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yeah, its also part of the “it’s not how you act, or what you do while everyone is watching you. its what you do when you think there is no one else around” mentality....... doing the right thing, if ONLY, because we know that it is the right thing to do.....
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K-Roll-PorscheTamer
> ttyymmnn
07/24/2017 at 13:42 |
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She’s never gonna live it down, but she learned her lesson in the way it never wish upon my worst enemy; and I have no enemies. So I wouldn’t wish it upon anyone.
Such an unfortunate accident. I hope the family can move forwards and heal.
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Mercedes Streeter
> ttyymmnn
07/24/2017 at 14:01 |
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No worries! I read it the way you intended. :)
But yeah, it’s hard because I’d love to hop up on a podium and talk about how bad drunk driving is...But in cases like this I feel it isn’t necessary. Such lesson was learned the hardest way possible. All I can think about is the human loss and the impact it will make for years to come.
This is unless we’re talking about someone like the “Affluenza” kid, because people like him are likely to do stuff like this again so I don’t have any sympathy for him.
merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc
> DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back
07/24/2017 at 14:13 |
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I know I’m lucky to be alive after my teenage/college years. My life has been a game of inches many times over. If she serves as a cautionary tale and saves just one other kid from something stupid, then all is not lost. I find it hard to judge her on her reaction to the situation due to her being intoxicated. That will tend to skew things. So sad a situation. I wouldn’t wish this upon anyone.
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merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc
> ttyymmnn
07/24/2017 at 14:16 |
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Yessir, I think most of us that made it through our teenage years can look back at some stupid thing we did that could’ve turned out a lot differently. But by the grace of God go I.
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ttyymmnn
> merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc
07/24/2017 at 14:54 |
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Here’s my story: I was at a friend’s house, and he was on the phone forever with his girlfriend. I got bored, so I set up a .22 long cartridge on a couple of cardboard boxes and started shooting at it with a BB gun. I got pissed that I kept missing, so I walked up on it and shot at it point blank. The BB struck the cap, the bullet went off, and the slug lodged in my nostril. Fortunately, the majority of the force was spent by the casing going down through the boxes. So, yeah. We’ve all done stupid, potentially deadly things.
NJAnon
> ttyymmnn
07/24/2017 at 20:01 |
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you want to be dangerous and reckless? go ahead, just have the understanding of getting a dangerous and reckless result and a insanely hard lesson learned.
pip bip - choose Corrour
> ttyymmnn
07/25/2017 at 08:45 |
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too vain to keep her eyes on the road.
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6691 zapS
> ttyymmnn
07/25/2017 at 15:14 |
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Ha, Ha, Ha.
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6691 zapS
> 6691 zapS
07/25/2017 at 15:15 |
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I had my,“Vacation” at 35. But I a few sandbags short of a full load.....